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Monday, May 11, 2009

stressed, and barely alive

 

I have so busy lately, it is not even funny.   The only good thing left is that I am still alive.

New lady boss is very demanding and pushy, wanting more, more, more, and more.  Expect 24/7 work.  A deadline of September becomes past due in July so she could please her boss.  It is hard to understand what she wants, as she wants me to guess what she wants.   She imagines that if I am not at the desk, I would not be working on the project.  She does not think I need sleep or bathroom breaks.   I need to vent here before I become insane. lol  Imagine me coming up for air now, just enough time to write something so you know I am alive, and then go dive into work again.       

Suggestion on how to balance work and life, or how to satisfy a lady boss are welcomed.  See you later, my Xanga friends! 

 

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can't give ya any help with that.  i usually quit or get fired if i have a female boss. i have one now and it's a thin line i walk. just today, business was rather slow so she is walking by and says why don't you clean the counter glass, i'am a comissioned sales person. so anyway, i did clean the glass 'cause i had nothing better to do. it wasn't 3 minutes after i finished that she comes by and asks me to clean the glass. i had to tell her that i had done all of it because that's what she told me to do. so i asked her if she wanted me to do it again. i got no comment. they seem to think everyone needs "busy work" which i just can't tolerate. she is getting a "lateral"  promotion so i will probably have to train another one.
Posted 5/11/2009 9:18 PM by droptop11 Xanga True Member - reply

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Nice to hear from Steve again!

I have had a couple of lady bosses...the earlier one during my career is a real bitch but the latter one is a nice lady, who promoted me to a higher position. So, I have mixed experiences. Good luck to you!
Posted 5/11/2009 9:18 PM by CurryPuffy Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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sorry, in the same boat as you are, I sold my life to Citibank, typical person working at citibank is only 40 hours, I'm working all 6 days and way over 48 hours..... i only get sundays off, but i usually spend my sundays washing clothes and cleaning my room and preparing food for work all week long....sighs......
Posted 5/11/2009 11:30 PM by NeptunePrince_Returns - reply

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sorry....couldn't help you there. I just recently got rehired by my old company as a temp for now (going to take it day by day and see where this will lead me this time), and it seems like they are going to throw me back into the middle of things already. I started today and was told that they want me to start on my own project with a deadline in Sept. Glad to see you're alive :)
Posted 5/12/2009 12:20 AM by icebladz - reply

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No wonder I have not seen you updating your blog in a while.

Your boss seems like a boss from hell. I think you better start looking for a new job. I know it's tough to get a job with this economic situation but no harm looking around.

Posted 5/12/2009 12:39 AM by icepearlz Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Hi Steve - sounds like you are being worked ragged!  Sorry to hear that.  Adjusting to a new boss and her personal style can be a challenge, especially as your boss will be eager to show positive results to her bosses as quickly as possible!  A few years ago I created some training on the topic of "Aligning with Your Boss' Goals".  If you'll indulge me, I'll share a few points here, in the hopes that it may be helpful:

The traditional view of the working relationship between a boss and an employee was that the boss’ job is to manage his or her subordinates. The newer thinking is that both parties are responsible for managing the relationship between employee and boss.

"What’s the difference between these two perspectives? What are the benefits of choosing the second one?”

<LI>The difference between these perspectives is that the second one recognizes that the relationship really goes both ways – both parties have things to gain by effectively working together. <LI>In terms of benefits, people who manage their relationship with their boss well, tend to do well for themselves in their careers.

The first step to managing your relationship with your boss is to understand the world from your boss’ perspective.

“What are some ways you can accomplish this?”

<LI>Sit down with your boss and discuss his or her expectations of you. Ask the question, “What are three ways you personally measure success in your employees?” and discuss the responses. <LI>Learn about your boss’ likes and dislikes, pressures and responsibilities by talking with others who have worked with your boss. Remember to do this in a way that isn’t “gossipy” or malicious. <LI>Become an observer. Watch how your boss interacts with her peers and manager. Notice when their reports and projects are due, along with other important deadlines or activities. Remember that their goals are aligned with the company’s goals, so dig deeper - the more you know about the company's goals, the more you will understand what drives your boss. <LI>Find out how bosses think. Read biographies or profiles of successful leaders (both in business and other areas) and make note of the strengths and weaknesses they showed. Does your boss reflect any of these traits? How can you support them? <LI>Share your expectations of your boss. Putting your boss’ concerns first is important, but if you have specific needs in order to be successful, it is important that your boss understand these. You can’t expect her to read your mind.

As you better understand you boss’ perspective and what is important to her, you can work to bring your priorities and goals into alignment with your boss’ priorities and goals.

What are some strategies you can use to build alignment between your goals and your boss’ goals?

<LI>Commit to goals in writing. After meeting with your boss to discuss her expectations, strategize your own goals, share them with your boss, and commit them to writing. This provides both you and your boss a starting point from which to begin future discussions about coaching and performance. <LI>Slow down – Before you start volunteering your good ideas, seek first to really understand your boss. Listen attentively and ask questions before offering your ideas and forming opinions. Especially when the boss is different than us (different sex, different level of experience, from a different industry background), we can jump to conclusions and then become unwilling to budge from our perspective. <LI>Keep the boss informed. People often assume that the boss knows more than they actually do. Your boss can be put in an uncomfortable situation if they are caught unaware of something. Save them the discomfort and let them you know are rooting for shared succes, by keeping your boss aware of what’s going on. At the same time, don’t bother your boss with trivial or personal problems. <LI>Be prepared for questions and be ready with solutions. Before coming to your boss with information, take a few minutes to consider the questions you may be asked and prepare answers. When you bring a problem to your boss’ attention, come prepared with proposed solutions. This shows that you are an empowered employee and a critical thinker.

I hope this list has been a little helpful, Steve. The training was prepared for employees in a different industry but maybe some of the points can apply to your situation.  The most important point I'd emphasize, from my own experience, is to be careful about thinking of your boss as "the lady boss".  I've worked with a great number of female bosses, many of whom were excellent, most of whom were good and a few of whom were awful bosses.  Those proportions, though, were about the same as the many male bosses I've worked for.  Don't let any preconceptions cloud your judgment!

Best of luck!

Posted 5/12/2009 2:11 AM by christao408 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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Hmmm... my bulletted lists didn't print up correctly.  Sorry about that.
Posted 5/12/2009 2:12 AM by christao408 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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yikes! hang in there, and good luck! sorry i can't give you much advice, i've never had to deal with a situation like that before.
Posted 5/12/2009 5:09 AM by kunhuo42 - reply

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I agree with Chris.  I don't think gender makes a bit of difference.  I've had great women bosses and great men bosses, and I've also had the worst of both.  Take gender out of the equation and imagine your boss is male.  Same thing, aye?  If you need more time to reboot yourself, again, see Chris's list.  Also, remember that this will pass.  You'll remember this experience later on and just shake your head.  In the mean time, take care of yourself! We've missed you!
Posted 5/12/2009 9:45 AM by jojobaDESIGNS Xanga Premium Member - reply

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she's demanding too much and no one can possibly satisfy her.
Posted 5/12/2009 9:53 AM by oral_fixations - reply

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Are you working in an Asian company?
Posted 5/12/2009 10:12 AM by Wangium - reply

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Ugh! Women + Business + Power = BITCH
She should be barefoot and pregnant!
Posted 5/12/2009 8:48 PM by CareyGLY Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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I like Chris' advice. Managing your manager is one of the most difficult tasks. I didn't do a good job of that before and paid for it.

1. Do you folks have different working styles? What's your style and what's her style? (micro manager, decisive, multi tasker, manipulator, proactive, reactive...).

2. Do the 2 of you have the same goals and measurements? What's her priorities? What's her pain points?

3. Pick your battles, don't carry on a debate when she's already made a decision.

4. What's her weak spots? Can you compliment it? Will she notice and see the value?

5. Do you have a mentor that can help?

6. Is she insecure about you?

7. Give your manager "credit". "Let's build on your idea / approach." And then expand on it with some of your stuff.

8. Do you have a regular review with her? If not, set aside some time and keep it structured. Document issues that are raised. Keep it with the projects, tasks and responsibilities that she has given you. Ask her to help you prioritize. She'll know something has to give. Make sure she understands that work life balance is important to you. You'll get the job done.

9. Is her boss driving her crazy? Ask around? Maybe her boss is responsible for some of this.
See what you can do to help both of you.

check out books and articles - e.g. Harvard Business Review - Managing Your Boss by John J. Gabarro and John P. Kotter. (May June 1993)

Good luck and hang in there. You need to gently but firmly push back on her.
Posted 5/12/2009 8:55 PM by ElusiveWords Xanga True Member - reply

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i feel for you, buddy. take it easy. focus on your work. we xangans will be here waiting, patiently.
Posted 5/14/2009 4:15 AM by rudyhou - reply

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sorry to hear that...but do go to my blog when you are free... at least it may help you over the stresses... all the best!! i would suggest you kill/fuck your lady boss LOL get her done before you had gone mad ok??
Posted 5/15/2009 10:01 PM by lcfu - reply

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@droptop11 - I had some good lady boss before, but my current one is "specail", :(  Glad yours is "promoted" away, mine just started so I have to try to survive for a while.

@curry69curry - Gary, my earlier lady bosses were all very nice, some would come up to me when they saw me miles away.  They showed appreciation of what I do.  I just hope I can hang on long enough this time and hope I can learn how to cope with this one quickly.

 @NeptunePrince_Returns -  yours work life seems long and hard also. We both need to take time off once a while just to be sane. Hang in there, enjoy reading your blogs.

Posted 5/17/2009 4:49 AM by stevew918 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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@icebladz - Nice to hear from you, and gald to hear that your old company hire you back.  Having a job, even as a temp., these days is a blessing! 

@icepearlz - Interesting that when I talked with my friend girls, they all said the lady is looking for excuse to fire me, no matter how good I do.  Must be good lady sense!  Too bad there is no job out there at this time, but I need to be mentally prepared. Thanks for the advice! 

@kunhuo42 - hope you will never have to deal with a boss from hell.

 

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@oral_fixations - at this time, I have completed all the action items ahead of her schedule.  Will have monthly review coming Wednesday, cross my fingers.  We will see. Sigh!

@Wangium -I heard companies run by Chinese are often cheap and unreasonably demanding.  I have heard horror stories in those cases.  Actually I work for a major corporation, top 10 in USA with over 50,000 people.   99% of bosses in the company is pretty good, even the CEO would come up to say hi.  Just this lady boss who is way too eager to move ahead.  I think she wants to step on me to get quick promotions.  I need to learn how to survive her.

 

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@rudyhou - thanks, thanks!  I need that, my dear Xanga friend.

@lcfu - get her done, kill or fuck, lol!  Always enjoy your blogs!  Xanga is the only thing keeping me sane these days.  Thanks!

Posted 5/17/2009 5:05 AM by stevew918 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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@christao408 - @ElusiveWords -  Chris and Matt, many thanks for your advice!  I have been working so ragged lately that I did not have time even to think straight.  Now I have completed all tasks she demanded for June 1 done, I have time to clear my mind.  Having a review meeting with her mid-week. I have printed both your advices, and plan to study them this weekend.  "Manage the Boss" is the key.   Wish me luck!  Sign!  Glad I have wise Xanga friends here, thanks! 

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@jojobaDESIGNS - thanks!  Agree that there are good and bad bosses, in respect to gender.  Just that this is extreme case of  "Man are from Mars, woman are from Venus".  We have totally different communication methods, and I just need to learn to adjust!  I am having a hard time dealing with her starting sentences, like,  "No, no, no, no, no, ", and she does that a lot. She starts emails with "I have deep concern". She enjoys micro-manage to the extreme.  She enjoys playing boss in the technical area although she "sucks" there.  I guess my ego has been hurted and she does not recognize my feeling.  Several people in the unit have been complaining in private about her extreme micromanagement style, although I never express my feeling to anyone except my blog here.  She would call me "bro", "buddy" in a, to me, demeaning way.  When I asked her what kind of deadline she would like, she wants me to guess what she wants.  She constantly want me to guess what she wants,instead of saying her preferences.   It has not been the easiest time for me.  Xanga, has been a great way to vent and learn from friends, thanks! 

Posted 5/17/2009 5:45 AM by stevew918 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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@CareyGLY - sound lik you have met some before.  Not all lady bosses are bitches, I have some good one I admire.  The current one I have is like manager from hell, no matter the gender, although on top of that, I have to deal with the communication methods with her, it is a typical and extreme case of "Men are from Mars, and Women from Venus" case.  I will try to survive, or change job! Thanks! 

Posted 5/17/2009 5:48 AM by stevew918 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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I'm not that wise... just battled scarred.
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@stevew918 - goodluck!!!

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You rock!!

@stevew918 - She sounds like the boss from hell.  I had a boss exactly like her several years ago, and after I left the job (nearly had a nervous breakdown), I kept having nighmares (literally, seriously) for a year afterwards.  People like that get off on hurting others.  Your boss is a narcissist (look that one up on Google and you'll see!), and there's no pleasing her.  Once you learn exactly what a narcissist is, you'll be able to read this boss.  Unfortunately, she is making a bad name for "women" bosses all over the place. . . and that's too bad, but the main thing is that you must not believe her version of who YOU are.  Until you can get out from under this thing, you'll have to do a lot of self-boosting, doing things that make you feel good about yourself, & being around people who know what a great person you are.  I wish I had the magic words to help you, but I was unable to help myself other than leaving that job for another one.   

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